Classic What's the philosophy of M+ now? It used to be an alternative path to gearing, but that's not true anymore.


So M+ has been super light on upgrades this xpac. I'm doing 10-12 range and getting 203 items, whereas I go to HC CN and get an upgrade from killing Shriekwing for a 10 min time investment.This creates an environment where gear kinda stagnates past the 200-205 ilvl for most people, and that makes pushing M+ an even worse experience because you're not getting upgrades in the dungeons themselves. In past seasons, people pushing 10-12s would be closer to HC raiders in gear, but that's rarely true now (unless you raid HC, so don't apply this to yourself if you do).Even the vault isn't really functioning as "9 options" People said it's gonna offer 9 choices for gear weekly, but there's a massive disparity if you're a M+ pusher. Your M+ options will be 220-226, whereas your other options will only match if you're pushing ranks and mythic raids. Leaving you effectively with 3 options.If you want 9 options at the same level, you need to be progressing mythic CN (and clearing HC) with at least rival rank and clearing 10 M+ a week. But if you're already playing at that level, you don't need 9 gearing options to begin with.What is the philosophy of M+ now? Is it gonna be gearing primarily through the vault? Because even through a full season m, the vault would still not give enough gear for all of your slots. And the chance of a bad vault week increases with the more gear we get out if it.The usual reply is to just raid. But raiding is a genuinely unpleasant experience for a big portion of the playerbase. Especially now that we've lived with M+ for 4 years or so. Communities were built around it. Why take that away?Just give us back M+. It doesn't make sense now. via /r/wow https://ift.tt/37YvaSK

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